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2014 Range Rover Sport Autobiography B Service

Mark: Hi, it's Mark from TLR. I'm here with Bernie Pawlik, Pawlik Automotive in Vancouver. Vancouver's best auto service experience. 24 time winners of best auto repair in Vancouver as voted by their customers. And we're talking cars. How are you doing Bernie? 

Bernie: Doing well today. 

Mark: So today's victim is a 2014 Range Rover Sport Autobiography. Why do the British have such long names, that a B service required. What was going on with this SUV? 

Bernie: Long names. This is actually a Land Rover Range Rover Sport Autobiography. It's a very long name, anyways. Yeah, so the owner brought this in for a B service. He'd recently purchased the vehicle and it was due for service. So he brought it in. He had a couple of concerns as well. So we did the service, did the inspection that goes along with the B service. And that's why brought in. 

Mark: What did you find? 

Bernie: Well, it was interesting. So on the road test, one thing and I didn't do it myself but our technician noticed that you can feel that there's a lot of clunking noises in the front end. Maybe not on typical of one of these vehicles. And also the front end seemed very bouncy. Like the shocks were bad, which seems surprising because this vehicle only had 57,000 kilometres. And the suspension seemed to be riding normal. Sometimes we have these where the airbags leak, and of course it rides funny, but there was no warning lights or any issues with that, but it had a very bouncy ride. 

Mark: So I assume that then you put it up on the hoist to see what was going on? 

Bernie: We did. And that's where we found some extremely interesting things that we often don't find on these vehicles. And I'll just share some pictures right now from our inspection. So there's our Range Rover Autobiography version.

2014 Range Rover Sport Autobiography B Service

This is sort of the main page of our inspection report that if you've never seen one of our inspections, this is sorta how it comes with the red stuff, meaning the most important and the orange items being maybe a little less important, but probably things that need to be done. 

2014 Range Rover Sport Autobiography B Service

And then of course it says a hundred and one items are okay, these would be things that obviously aren't on this list like bulbs and so on. But actually one complaint that the owner did have is that the brakes were making some noises and they had been replaced a few months ago. We figured the front pads had an intermittent squeak that they should be probably covered by the warranty of this company that did the brakes.

But anyways, what we found that the front control arm bushings were worn, not untypical on a Range Rover. And the front struts were actually leaking fluid and worn out completely. So there was an extremely bouncy ride. There's a test you can do on shock absorbers. You basically bounce a vehicle up and down. And bounce it up and down a few times, press the bumper up and down and let it go. And the vehicle should bounce up once and return to its normal position. Well, this thing just kept going and going and going on the front. So the shocks were completely blown, which is very unusual on these vehicles that we found. But nonetheless, a very important thing to fix. 

So a couple of other things, I'll just go through the inspection. Also there's a complaint that the battery light would come on sometimes. And so we did test the alternator and it actually turned out to have a fault in the alternator as well. So that was another item needed to be done. I'm not sure why this shows up as orange, cause it should have been red. 

 So here's a little more sort of a drill down into our inspection.

2014 Range Rover Sport Autobiography B Service

We can we can take photographs, show details of items. So this red arrow here, I know it's kinda hard to see on the screen, but this is a front control arm bushing. You can actually, if you're able to see it close enough, the rubber is actually cracking and separating and it's sort of visible here as well, too.  

Here are the shock absorber. This arrow is pointing to actual fluid that's leaking out of the shock. So that kind of indicates some of the issues.

2014 Range Rover Sport Autobiography B Service

This is actually a closer view of the the strut. You can see the control arm bushing, you can see a crack there. So this is kind of the details you get when we do an inspection on a vehicle. 

Mark: So the battery light doesn't necessarily mean that there's a bad battery. 

Bernie: No, actually the battery light, well you'd think, oh, that means the battery is bad. But what it actually means is the battery is not receiving a charge and there'll soon be a problem is kind of the way I like to think of it. Especially on a modern vehicle where there's a lot of electrical consumption for fuel pumps and electronic fuel injectors. Yeah, the battery light will come on either if the alternator's not putting out enough power or the other thing that'll cause it is it, if a belt breaks. Now sometimes the battery light will come on because there's a defect in the circuit that turns the light on. So it's always important to test it because sometimes the battery light can be on and the alternator could be fine, but 95% of the time, the alternator's bad. So in the case of this, we did do a couple of tests on it and did find that there was a problem with the alternator. 

Mark: So I don't know if you've mentioned, this was a newly purchased vehicle. And so it's got a lot of problems. Is this common? To find that on something that's only got 57,000 kilometres on it? 

Bernie: Well, I mean the blown shock seem unusual. The control arm bushings, not. You know, that's a pretty common issue. And over the years on Range Rovers and Land Rovers, the control arm bushings, especially the rear lower front control arm bushing has been a very common issue. They redesigned the suspension, so the bushing design is different, but there's still one that seems to wear out pretty easily on these vehicles.

But we actually did this inspection almost a month ago and between myself and my team at the shop, we kind of forgot some of the details. But what I remember from the conversation is that this person had just bought the vehicle from a fairly reputable dealership and was shocked by all the work that needed to be done. And of course we, we never actually did anything on it because he took it back, as he should have. Cause it was, I think, bought under the pretence that it was a certified good vehicle, but I may be wrong with my story here, but it wouldn't be beyond reality.

We do see the odd vehicle where even a reputable dealer will sell a vehicle that somehow slips through the cracks and they miss some details, but of course they'll make sure it's good, because they care about their reputation. But yeah, there was almost you know, including doing the front brakes, we should be covering our warranty, it was about $8,000 worth of work that we recommended on this vehicle with the shocks, the control arms, there was a couple of maintenance items that weren't really faults, just maintenance items that were due. So, yeah, I mean, probably more issues than should be done. But you know, we find, you know, Range Rovers, they tend to have a few things going on. 

Mark: It's an expensive vehicle and there seems to always be something that's expensive to fix. Is that accurate? 

Bernie: Yeah, there is. Yeah, absolutely. Now one thing in defence I will say is that they depreciate very precipitously. So a Range Rover that you buy for 150 or $200,000, five years later, it's probably only be worth $50,000. So it makes for a very good used car buy, I think if you have the money. And you know, if you have to throw $10,000 into a $50,000 used vehicle that was worth $150,000, five years ago, that's probably not really a bad thing to do. I mean, there are probably more things that go wrong with these and there should be, but nonetheless, you know, it is a nice vehicle and at least they're fairly priced on the used market.

If you're looking for service for your Land Rover, Range Rover, the guys to see in Vancouver is Pawlik Automotive. You can reach them at 604-327-7112 to book your appointment. Or you can book online at pawlikautomotive.com. They'll get in touch with you. They'll get ready. They'll be equipped to look after your vehicle when you show up, of course, unless they find something that was unexpected, just like this one. Check out the videos as well on pawlikautomotive.com, hundreds of them. The YouTube channel Pawlik Auto Repair. We really appreciate you watching. Thanks Bernie. 

Thank you, Mark. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. We do appreciate it.

2008 Land Rover LR2, Hard Starting

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Mark: Hi, it’s Mark from TLR. I’m here with Bernie Pawlik, Pawlik Automotive in Vancouver. Vancouver’s best auto service experience. 24 time winners of best auto repair in Vancouver. And we’re talking cars. How are you doing Bernie?
Bernie: Doing very well.
Mark: So today’s victim, we’ve seen a few of these, a Land Rover LR2 2008 version. What was going on with this vehicle?
Bernie: So the owner brought the vehicle to us. He bought it recently, done a few repairs himself. And the issue that he was having as the check engine light kept coming on and the vehicle is hard to start. It would crank over for a long time before the engine would eventually start.
So he’d done a bit of research, he’d replaced a few parts, fuel injectors, fuel rail pressure sensor, a lot of the things that could commonly cause an issue like that he’d replaced. Issue was still there. He said, Hey, you know, can you guys reprogram the vehicle powertrain control module. I said, yeah, it seems like a good idea. We can do that. So we did that.
Mark: And what was the result?
Bernie: Well, it didn’t solve his issue. So he still had the same concerns. About two weeks later, he booked in and brought it back and we said, Hey, we’re going to need the vehicle for a little while, based on what you’ve done.
There’s obviously some interesting issues. You know, something that might take some time to figure out. Leave it with us for a bit and we’ll look at it. So he brought it back and we started doing some tests and diagnosis on it.
Mark: So, what were the diagnostic steps that you took?
Bernie: The first thing was to test the fuel pressure. Do a complete vehicle scan and look at the data on the scan tool. So, first thing we noticed is the fuel rail pressure was a little out of spec. We suspected, you know, the pressure sensor that he put in may or may not have been good. So we got the proper fuel rail pressure sensor. Made sure it was exactly the right part number for the engine. This is really critical for these engines.
There’s a variety of different, over the years they’ve used this system on Volvos and LR2’s and some of them, these different fuel rail pressure sensors, if you put the wrong one in creates a lot of problems. We had a Volvo a little while ago that someone had put the wrong one in and just created months of havoc for the owner because they lived in a n out of the way town that had a hard time fixing it.
Anyways, put the right sensor in. The readings looked a little better, but still what we’d noticed when we put a fuel pressure gauge, as soon as you shut the engine off, the pressure would just drop down to zero, which is not a good thing.
It’s supposed to maintain a pressure around 30 PSI approximately for quite a while, like at least an hour or two. You know, and then, it’ll probably, if you leave it overnight, it’ll probably be down to zero, but at least there’s still a little bit of, it keeps the fuel on the line. So the thing that normally causes that as a bad fuel pump, there’s a check valve in the fuel pump. So that was kind of our next step in the job.
Mark: So what happened after you replaced the fuel pump?
Bernie: Yeah. So we replaced the fuel pump, it’s a large and you know, pretty pricey job in this vehicle. The pressure was good. Like the fuel pressure was exactly on spec at all times. And when you shut the engine off, the pressure would drop to 30, 40 PSI. It would stay there for a long time. So that issue was solved. So we’d fix that.
Mark: But were there some other problems still?
Bernie: So interestingly enough, the check engine light still stayed on, even though we cleared the codes and this car was still hard to start. So we had it for another day. We tried it the next morning and started perfect. But if you leave it and it got a little warm, it cranked over for a long time. So interestingly enough, even though we had good fuel pressure now, there were still some other issue going on. So we kind of proceeded to doing a whole number of further diagnosis.
The codes, by the way, for the check engine light, were a fuel system, rich code a P0171 and a 174. These are like rich fuel condition codes. So there’s too much fuel getting into the engine somehow. So how that happens, I mean, you could have a leak. There’s a few ways.
So we tested and verified that none of those items were present. We tried a new PCV it’s like a PCV valve assembly on the back of the engine replaced that. That didn’t make any difference. We cleaned the throttle plate. We did a number of things. I was at the point where, you know what, I want to fix this for the customer. We promised we do it. So at this point we kind of took it off the clock and I started going off, trying to figure out what else we could do to solve the issue.
The other area of course, is even though the oxygen sensor, the front oxygen sensors look to be reading normal, they were original. So we recommended replace them. Of course, you know, we charged for that. But you know, after that we replaced those that still didn’t solve the issue.
Mark: So now this is getting into the mystery portion of the program. So what’d you find out? What did you do next?
Bernie: Yeah, so the mystery portion, so I just re verified everything. Is our fuel pressure good. You know what could be causing this? And the last thing it came down to was the fuel injectors. And he’d replace them. So here’s a question, so I started asking him, Hey, you know, where did you get the fuel injectors from? Like where did you source them. And of course being a do it yourself, or there’s lots of options in the internet.
He’d bought them from an auto parts place that I won’t mention. They sell a variety of fuel injectors. He bought some very cheap injectors. Right away I go, I bet you that’s his problem. And having a little further conversation. The sequence of events was, you know, it was hard to start. I figured I’ll change the fuel injectors. So he put them in and it seemed to me from his conversation that maybe that’s when the check engine lights started coming on. Make a long story short. I finally conclude, you know, I think the injectors are crappy. They were probably about, I think he said, they were about $20 a piece.
I looked them up online. They’re about 20 bucks a piece. Not a bad choice. I mean, there, you know, why not go for a low price. The OEM injectors are about $400 each that’s a big discrepancy and you know, you don’t need to necessarily go with OEM, but what you should do, like on a car like this if you can get after market Bosch, which is basically the original supplier for less price, that’s probably the minimum of what you should do.
But anyways, to make a long story short the injector seemed to be the issue and so that was kind of the next stage of the the story.
Mark: So did you change injectors?
Bernie: No, we didn’t. So, at this point that, you know, his bill was very substantial. I figured, Hey, you know what? He said he still had the old ones. So I said, you know, here’s what I suggest you do. I’ve verified everything on the car, take the vehicle back, change the injectors back to the originals and then give me a call and let me know.
Mark: And?
Bernie: So I called him, we had a conversation a couple of days ago. He said, yeah, I just changed. The injectors, starts fine. The check engine lights off. So what are the lessons to be learned from this? Well, as a repair shop, I think asking even deeper questions of which parts did you use would be a very good thing that I’ve kind of learned. After all these years and gray hair, I’ve actually learned, Hey, you never ask all the questions. There’s always something that’s missed. And I made the assumption, Oh, you changed the injectors, you use something good. But you know, there was a question I should have asked.
And you know, I think what happened originally is this fuel pump was bad, which was causing the long cranking over and starting, because it was losing the pressure. But you know, fixing the field pump didn’t solve it because the fuel injectors were bad. So they’re still dumping too much fuel into the engine you know, with the bad faulty fuel injectors cause. So the other lesson, of course, if you’re a do it yourselfer, because I know some do it yourselfers watch this podcast, buy good quality parts. Don’t go for cheap price. You know, you got to make sure what you’re getting, you’re comparing good quality oranges to good quality oranges.
You know, if you’re getting the same quality at a better lower price, then that’s fine, but don’t use substandard quality.
Mark: Don’t put apples in.
Bernie: Yeah, that’s right. Yeah. Yeah. I’m trying to think of an orange comparison, but there really isn’t one.
Mark: Rotten oranges.
Bernie: Yeah rotten oranges on the inside.
Mark: This is also a good example of making assumptions, isn’t it?
Bernie: Exactly.
Mark: Assuming that it’s the fuel injectors and changing the fuel injector and just causing a cascade of issues because you’ve fixed the wrong darn thing.
Bernie: Yeah, exactly. And this isn’t the first time. We had a client who was a GMC diesel truck. We did a diagnosis and said, or actually for some reason he bought the truck and it was an older one, decided I’m going to change the fuel injectors myself, which was a very bold job because even something for us that would take like, well, over a day’s worth of labor, just to change the fuel injectors.
He changed them himself, but he bought some injectors online from a supplier. Within a month there’s problems. At the end of the day, we ended up replacing all this fuel injectors with good parts that we knew were reliable. He ended up spending like way more money. So you gotta get the right parts, but actually paying for proper diagnosis really makes a lot of sense. If you’re just guessing at stuff, you’re gonna waste your money. Sometimes you get lucky, but a lot of times you’ll end up creating a lot of grief and costs. You know, this job costs the owner a lot more money than it could have had he brought it to us originally and we just done our diagnostic and done it.
Mark: Fixed the right thing basically.
Bernie: Fix the thing the first time, exactly. And so, I mean, we have an interesting podcast to talk about out of this and lessons learned for owners and do it yourselfers and shops. Ask the questions.
Mark: Listen, if you want expert repairs on your Land Rover in Vancouver, BC, Canada, the guys to see are Pawlik Automotive. You can reach them at (604) 327-7112 or check out the website pawlikautomotive.com. You can book there, book your appointment there. You have to call or book online ahead. They’re busy. Or you can check out our YouTube channel. Pawlik Auto Repair, hundreds of videos on there, of course, on the website as well. Everything’s mirrored up on there. We’ve been doing this for nine years. There’s a lot of cars, a lot of repairs, a lot of types of stuff. And of course it’s all from the award-winning Pawlik Automotive. Thank you so much for watching. We really appreciate it. Thanks Bernie.
Bernie: Thanks Mark. And thanks for watching and listening.

2014 Range Rover Supercharged, Engine Noise Repair

Mark: Hi, it's Mark from TLR. I'm here with Bernie Pawlik, Pawlik Automotive in Vancouver, 24 times voted by their customers as best auto repair in Vancouver.  And we're talking about Range Rovers today. How are you doing Bernie? 

Bernie: Doing well? Yeah, we're talking about Range Rovers again. 

Mark: So today's victim is a 2014 Range Rover Supercharged that had an engine noise. Let me guess supercharger nose cone, timing chain? 

Bernie: Nope. None of the above. This was a different noise this time. 

Mark: So what was it? 

Bernie: There was a tapping noise in the engine and basically like a tick tick, tick, tick, tick type of sound. So surprisingly the timing chains, weren't the cause of the noise. But we did need to do some further diagnosis to figure out what it was. 

Mark: So what diagnosis and then steps towards repair did you have to take? 

Bernie: Yeah so for engine noises, I mean, our favourite tool is a stethoscope. I should have actually brought it in, hung around my neck and looked like a doctor, but it's sitting down in the shop. But it's kind of different than a doctor stethoscope in that it has a big long, it was kind of like a listening piece instead of having the flat thing that the doctor puts on. This has a big, long pointed tip and it magnifies the sound. And of course we stick it up to our ears, like any stethoscope, but when you're underneath the vehicle, you could really hear like a ticking noise right. Inside the exhaust system. 

But it wasn't the exhaust because you could also hear it actually coming up from the engine. I think it was just reverberating through the exhaust and amplifying the sound. But the noise was loudest up in the valve cover sort of under the right bank cylinder bank, valve cover area. So we knew there was something going on, probably a valve train problem, cam shaft, lifter, valve, you know, something like that, where it needed further disassembly. Specifically removing the valve cover to find out what was going on.

Mark: So is that a fairly straightforward task? 

Bernie: No, it's a Land Rover. It's a Range Rover. A Supercharged motor. Now it's not, I mean, a valve cover, you know, one time a valve cover removal was like I mean, I think there's some older Chevy's is like a 10 minute job to take a valve cover off maybe even five minutes.

If you have your tools beside you, but on these things, it's quite a lot of work. First of all, the supercharger has to come off and the intake manifolds. So that whole assembly has to come off. And then from there, the fuel injectors, it's a direct injection, they sit right in the middle of the cylinder.

The fuel injectors have to be removed in order to get the valve cover off. So we have a special puller that pulls the injectors because once they're in for a little while they stick in the cylinder bore. So it's a special slide hammer for pulling the injectors out. So it's a few hours worth of work just to get the valve cover off, to look at the inside.

Mark: Right. You got to cover off. What did you find? 

Bernie: So we found one of the exhaust valves, there's basically two exhaust valves per cylinder. One of the exhaust valves. There's a huge amount of play between the cam lobe and the bucket, which is like the lifter. The thing that presses the valve down on the camshaft. Enormous amount of play, probably like an eighth of an inch like this, you know, you can them kind of look see you in the camera, you know, like quite a lot of play, a huge amount. So it's normally about 9, 10 millimetres is kind of the average specification. This is like, I don't know, I have a hard time converting an eighth of an inch to millimetres, but it was a lot. Very excessive. So we knew that's where our problem was. And from there we had to disassemble, remove the camshaft and go further into disassembling. 

Mark: And was there anything else you found after the camshaft was removed? 

Bernie: Well, I'll show you what we actually found to be the actual issue. 

So our 2014 Range Rover. It's a full-size Range Rover Autobiography Edition, super nice. And the owners put some nice extra large wheels and tires on it. So for that even better look, it's kind of cool too get a carbon fibre hood as well. 

2014 Range Rover Supercharged, Engine Noise Repair
2014 Range Rover Supercharged, Engine Noise Repair
2014 Range Rover Supercharged, Engine Noise Repair
2014 Range Rover Supercharged, Engine Noise Repair
2014 Range Rover Supercharged, Engine Noise Repair

This is a view of the valve train on the right cylinder bank. So there's the timing chain. This is the exhaust cam, intake cam and the lifter. The issue we found is right in this area here with this exhaust valve and cam right here. This is the camshaft bucket. This will sit over top of the valve and the valve spring and the tip of the valve, the valve STEM presses against here. I don't have a view of the other side, but the other side is where the camshaft rides.

This is a brand new one. If you look really closely, you'll see a nice round piece here. And these are all very precision thicknesses, because this is how you adjust your valve clearance on this engine. It's a solid lifter. There are about 40 different, I'm guessing 30 or 40 different thicknesses. So you have to get them right. Put them in the right spot and measure them out. 

This is what we found when we took the engine apart. You can see this centre piece completely gone. So there's our eighth of an inch of play. It basically just hammered out, I don't know what happened, whether that's a hollow piece and it hammered it out or what happened, but I'll just go back and you can see the good one  and the bad one.

So that's where our problem was. We measured everything out on all the other ones after repair. We went through and did a full valve clearance inspection. All of the rest of them were good. So we just repaired the one, which was the only thing going on. Now you might wonder, should we have done all of them?

This is the first time we've run into this and we've done numerous engine repairs on these vehicles. So we figured it was basically a one-off issue on this particular thing and all the other valves specked out perfectly well. So there's our picture show of the day. 

Mark: So I'm sure while you had everything apart, you had a look at the timing chains in the Supercharger. How were they? 

Bernie: Well, we actually end up replacing all of them. Actually we're kind of surprised because the timing chains are all actually in good shape. There was no play. We talked to the owner and he said, look, I've owned this thing since brand new, had about 130,000 kilometres on, he says I've never had them replaced.

Like the engine has never been opened up. So he was keen to replace them because he knows it's a problem while it's in there, it's a bit more money for parts, but the labor is not really any more involved. The Supercharger nose cone, like there's a coupler that connects between the pulley and the actual supercharger.

That's the, where the problem lies with the nose cone. And there was some play in that, even though it wasn't really noisy, we replaced that too, because again, everything is apart. Why not do it while it's apart? Little more money for parts, but, you know, saves having to do it again in a few months.

So everything's done, complete. The end of story, it sounded great. Like the engine runs beautifully. Sounds really good. Like not any noise. Really nice. 

Mark: So do you have any idea on why that part failed? 

Bernie: No, I don't. I mean, at first we thought, well, maybe bad maintenance, because a lot of time, you know, it's easy for people to miss an oil change. These are the kinds of things that happen. If you, have not even decided you just get forgetful and you miss an oil change or the warning light comes on, says service the vehicle. They should get it done right away because you know, don't wait. I mean, I say right away, get it done within a week or two. But don't wait for a month or two, or if you've missed something. It's better to service it even before the warning lights come on if you can kind of track it. You know, go, okay I'm just going to change my oil every 10,000 kilometres. It prevents a lot of stuff from happening. 

This engine didn't look abused in any way inside. It didn't have any sludge buildup. So, I don't really know why it could have just been a faulty part or something that just wore, for some reason, things do happen. I mean, even in well-maintained cars, sometimes things just break and wear out.

So good maintenance is a good prevention. It's like eating good food, you know, will generally extend your lifespan and keep you healthy, but it's not a guarantee. 

Mark: And of course, any Supercharged high performance engine, and this definitely is in that category needs to be maintained appropriately.

Bernie: Absolutely. I mean, these engines are under an immense amount of strain. When you think of the weight of this vehicle and these things like take off like a rocket. I mean, they are super fast, you know, there's over 500 horsepower in this engine. It's a lot, and it's fun to drive for a vehicle like this. But there's an immense amount of strain on an engine that can go from zero to 5,000 RPMs in a second. That's a lot of strain. So things have to be in good shape. 

Mark: If you need some service for your Range Rover and you want experts, who've done lots of work on lots of Range Rovers and know all the ins and outs. And you want to make sure your Range Rover is running well. The guys to see are Pawlik Automotive.

Book online at pawlikautomotive.com. There's also hundreds of videos, many about all the different normal issues that you might have with your Range Rover Supercharged or not. Of course, if you want to call somebody and talk to them, (604) 327-7112 to book an appointment, you got to call, he got a call and talk to them.

They're busy. You can't just show up. But of course, this is just talking about Vancouver. We appreciate everyone who watches these shows. We really enjoy making them. We've done it for nine years. We've got close to a thousand videos out there all makes and models and types of repairs. And thanks, Bernie.

Bernie: Thank you, Mark. And thanks for watching. And don't forget, you can book online too, new service works really well.

2016 Range Rover Sport, Front Brake Replacement

Mark: Hi, it's Mark from Top Local. I'm here with Bernie Pawlik, Pawlik Automotive in Vancouver. Vancouver's best auto service experience. 24 time winners of best auto repair in Vancouver as voted by their customers. 24 times. And we're talking cars. How are you doing Bernie? 

Bernie: Doing very well.

Mark: Today's victim is a 2016 Range Rover Sport that had front brake replacement. What was going on with this vehicle? 

Bernie: Yeah. So the vehicle came to us with a brake warning light on the dash, that the brakes were worn out. And so we proceeded to do some service on it. 

Mark: What inspections do you do to kind of dig into that, that warning light?

Bernie: Yeah, so the warning light is pretty clear. It's like a brake pad wear light. So we do a brake inspection on the vehicle to determine whether it's front brakes or rear brakes. In this case, it was both. But yeah, that's the inspection we do. We look at the pads, we measure the pads, we measure the rotors, inspect the brake fluid, all the brake lines. So it's not just a, let's just throw some pads and, you know, rotors on it or whatever. We move the caliper pistons, make sure they're moving okay, and the caliber sliders are good. Yeah, it's a thorough inspection. 

Mark: And what did you find? 

Bernie: So yeah, the front and rear brakes were worn out on the vehicle. So the pads and rotors were worn out front and back. Calipers were in good shape, but this vehicle is not very old, 2016, so we wouldn't expect there to be anything else with the vehicle. But it's always worth inspecting, but pads and rotors all the way around. And the brake fluid was due to be replaced as well at the same time. So we're just going to talk about the front brakes today. The backs another time, perhaps. 

Mark: So what's involved in doing brakes on a Range Rover? 

Bernie: Well, basically there's three items to replace. So we'll just talk about the front brakes. There's new pads, brake rotors and brake pad wear sensors, which  each axle has a pad wear sensor to indicate with when the pads are worn out to give you a warning on your dash.

Mark: So how effective or the pad where sensors at actually detecting accurately, whether your pads are worn out or not? 

Bernie: Well, in this case, they were really good. I'm going to share some pictures of this point and we'll have a look at a couple of things and we'll talk about that a little more.

2016 Range Rover Sport, Front Brake Replacement
2016 Range Rover Sport, Front Brake Replacement
2016 Range Rover Sport, Front Brake Replacement
2016 Range Rover Sport, Front Brake Replacement

So there's our 2016 Range Rover Sport Autobiography Edition, which is very nice model. There's a little closeup of the brakes after we completed, a nice shiny new rotor, nice Brembo red painted caliper. It's a very large brake rotor. Although it's funny in this picture, you can't really tell so much, but it's a nice visual ratio of brake size to wheel size.  If that means anything. But, you know, I tend to think it makes the vehicles should stop faster. 

So here's a picture of our old parts. These are the front pads and rotors we removed from the vehicle. This little groove here is basically you know, helps dissipate heat can see it's pretty much worn out, especially on this pad here.

There's an edge view of our pads and this wire piece here, this is the pad wear sensor. So just one brake pad on the front axle has a pad wear sensor and on the rear just one brake pad as well. You know, on some vehicles, they have a pad wear sensor on every pad. It depends. Range Rover, Land Rovers just put it on one. So how effective is it? 

Well, let's just get a close up and we can actually look at the brakes. So this is the pad with the wear sensors. So you can see there's still probably, maybe two millimetres of pad left on this one. And the sensor is, I don't know if it's actually even touched. I didn't actually look really closely, but I don't even know if the sensor is touched. So it might be the rear one that actually set the warning light off. But if you look at this front brake pad, I mean, this is a spin as a piece of paper. So this pad is worn out and almost, almost ready to go metal on metal.

I mean, it would be a matter of a week before it would start grinding. So this is the yellow arrow here, basically points of what brake pads left. That's the pad wear sensor and the blue arrow just kind of points to the edge of the rotor, which is why we replaced the rotors. These brake rotors wear pretty hard on most European cars. As the pad, whereas it tends to wear the metal away on the rotor as well. So it's not really, if you could machine it, you'd be basically machining the rotor right down to its wear limit, which means in a short period of time, it will be under the wear limit and they just wear out really fast at that point.

So that's kind of an example of everything. I'd say, you know, the downside of pad wear sensors, when you have it on one brake pad is it doesn't monitor all the pads. So as you can see, there's quite a discrepancy between these two brake pads here. If you look how thick that is and how thin that one is.

So sometimes, you know, the brakes could wear to the point where they'll start grinding and the pad wear's warning light hasn't come on. But of course, once it grinds, you know you need to do some service. You just want to do it before that point. 

Mark: So Range Rovers are pretty big vehicles and they're very high performance. Probably got a lot of horsepower. So they need big brakes. How long did the brakes actually last on these vehicles? 

Bernie: Well, surprisingly not as long as I think they should. This vehicle has 33,000 kilometres and all four brakes are worn out in front and rear. And this is kind of typical of a lot of large European SUV's. Like Audi, the Audi Q7 for years you'd be lucky to get 25,000 Ks out of a set of brake pads. The newer Q7s are much better. They've reformulated the brakes somehow and they tend to last at least 50 now. So that's a good thing.

I think 50 is pretty decent for a set of brakes, but like 33 seems a little on the low side, and I've seen Range Rovers go up to 50. But you can sort of expect between 30 and 50 K's, you're going to go through a set of brakes. And I've said before, in other podcasts, it does surprise me because I mean, they are a heavy vehicle. They've got a lot of horsepower, but they have a huge brake. I mean, these brakes are bigger than you find on a lot of you know, there's the size of what you find in a one ton pickup truck.

And it's often the one-time pickup truck brakes on an American vehicle will last 100 Ks. So it's rather surprising that these don't last as long. But somehow I think in the formulations of the pad materials, in the rotor materials, they want to go for comfortable brakes so they probably put a slightly softer material in everything.

Mark: So does that mean that the brakes are more effective? So you're stopping power's a little higher or does it mean they don't squeak as much? Or why would they go with a softer material? 

Bernie: I think it's a combination of both. Now, even while I'm saying softer material, you think that wouldn't be so hard on the rotor. So because generally a softer brake pad, isn't going to wear the rotor metal so hard. But yeah, usually like a softer material will prevent squeaks and it'll grab better. But of course, if you're doing high speed braking, you don't want something that's too soft. So there's a lot of science that goes into brake pad and brake pad materials to get it right.

Mark: If you've ever driven down a steep road for a long time, you know, brakes get extremely hot. 

Bernie: Yeah, super hot. And I can't say enough about pumping your brakes, you know, put them on, slow down and let your foot off the brake. Let them cool down. It's really important. Don't ever go down a steep hill with your foot on the brake all the time, because you might find that you don't have any brakes. I've actually almost experienced that once in a car and it was a little bit scary. 

Mark: It's more than scary. Yeah more than scary, yeah. So you service a lot of Range Rovers at your shop, how are the 2016's for reliability? 

Bernie: So far, they seem good. Of course it is only five years old at this point. And I find sometimes you need a little longer of time before you find out the reliability of the vehicle. You know, we found timing chain issues with a lot of these engines. This one's fine. Of course it's very low mileage and five years old. But if you go, you know, a few model years back, timing chains are problems But so far so good. You know, I think first five years of these vehicles, you're generally pretty good. I mean, maybe a brake job, possibly a set of tires if you drive a lot. But other than that, so far so good. 

Mark: If you need service for your Range Rover in Vancouver, the guys to see are Pawlik Automotive. You can reach them at (604) 327-7112 to book your appointment. Or go to the website pawlikautomotive.com. You can book your appointment online and they'll get in touch with you. Get the details, get ready for you to come in. You have to call and book ahead. You have to book on the website ahead because they are busy. There's a reason why they're 24 time winners of Best in Vancouver because they are, simply. 

So check out the YouTube channel Pawlik Auto Repair. We've got hundreds, literally not exaggerating hundreds of videos on there, close to a thousand actually. Or check out the website pawlikautomotive.com, everything's there, transcripts, et cetera. We've been doing this for nine years. We've got every make and model and type of car you can probably think of and type of repair on there. Thanks for watching. We really appreciate it. Thank you, Bernie. 

Thank you, Mark. Thanks for watching.

2017 Range Rover Sport HSE, TD6 Diesel Maintenance Service

Mark: Hi, it's Mark from Top Local. I'm here with Bernie Pawlik, Pawlik Automotive in Vancouver. 23 time winners of best auto repair in Vancouver as voted by their customers. That's the important part, right? They're voted by their customers, not just some magazine bestowing on them and we're talking cars. How are you doing Bernie?

Bernie: Doing very well. 

Mark: So 2017 Range Rover diesel. What was going on with this vehicle? 

Bernie: This vehicle came to our shop. It was due for a maintenance service, an A level service. And that's what we did on the vehicle. 

Mark: So, what do you do during an A level service? 

Bernie: The A-level service on this vehicle, I mean, the heart of the service is an oil and filter change. But along with that, we adjust tire pressures, do a visual inspection of the vehicle, under hood inspection. Look at fluids. Inspect lights. I mean, a lot of these things are monitored by computer these days and things like lights, but it's always good to look at them because surprisingly enough, there's the odd light that isn't monitored on certain vehicles. You'd think everything would be, but it's not. So that's something we look at and yeah, fluids and that's basically it. 

Mark: So it's a diesel, anything different because in the service realm, because it's a diesel?

Bernie:  Yeah. Well, there was one additional item on this vehicle and that is the diesel exhaust fluid needs to be filled up during a service. And that's basically the only additional thing that we would do. I mean this particular service, it was due for air filters and cabin air filters which we replaced. But that's not a normal part of the service. It's a once in a while type of thing. 

Mark: So diesel exhaust fluid. What the heck is that? 

Bernie: So diesel exhaust fluid is kind of the latest, and I say latest because it's been out for more than a decade now, it's the latest exhaust emission technology on diesels. You know, there's NOx emissions, which are the big thing on diesel engines. Need to be reduced.

There's various ways you can build an engine, you can put EGR valves. You know, programming and things to reduce NOx, but really the ultimate way to do it is with a device called an SCR. It's a selective catalyst reduction and is the last piece in the exhaust system before the muffler.

So most modern diesels, they have the oxidation catalyst, which comes as the exhaust streams out, goes to the catalyst, then it goes to the particular filter and now it goes to the SCR. And the SCR has a urea injector, and that uses a special type of fluid. It's like a urea based fluid that's injected into the SCR that reduces NOx to pretty much nothing. So that's kind of like the magic bullet in diesels nowadays. 

It's the one I know I've talked about before. It's the one that Volkswagen didn't want to do so they could do their emissions without it. And instead they faked it and because they didn't want the additional cost of putting an SCR system in the vehicle or the exhaust fluid system.

Mark: $18 billion dollars later, they learned their lesson.

Bernie: Yeah, it would, it would have been cheaper just to charge a little more money for the cars and be honest with people, but, you know, it's just getting off on Volkswagen. I mean, it's caused them to invest in electric technology. And I think they're going to be one of the winners in terms of that. So in a way it's bad and good. 

And I'm just gonna share a couple of photos real quick. I didn't take a picture of the engine on this thing, but there's, you know, a nice little picture of the the name badge in the back of the vehicle.

2017 Range Rover Sport HSE, TD6 Diesel Maintenance Service
2017 Range Rover Sport HSE, TD6 Diesel Maintenance Service

And always beautiful looking Range Rover to me, always a beautiful style, good looking vehicle. And you know, it looks pretty much the same with the diesel, it's just when you pop the hood, that's where you see the difference and some of the specs.

Mark: So does that diesel exhaust fluid add a lot of cost operating cost to this vehicle? 

Bernie: The actual fluid is really cheap and it lasts, you know, between probably I have to top it up every, maybe eight to 10,000 kilometres, depending on driving conditions and so on. And it, it's not expensive. I think on the bill of this service was about 45 bucks for the fluid and the tank was very low. So it's not a huge cost over that period of time. It's not like fuel, it's marginal. It's maybe a few cents on a litre of fuel for the amount that's used. So it's really very little, but where the cost does come in is when things start to break down, when things get old. 

It's a complicated system. The fluid freezes very easily. So it has to be kept warm. So it's got a very complex system. It's got a tank, it's got a heater, it's got a pump, you know, obviously computer controls and an injector nozzle and piping. So there's a lot of bits and pieces that go wrong and they do eventually.

So this is a young vehicle. It's only four years old. It's got, you know, 50,000 kilometres, not much going on with it yet, but given, another five years, something in the system may fail and it's expensive to fix. 

Mark: What are some of the other maintenance requirements for this three litre diesel? 

Bernie: So fuel filters are one of them. Those are the things you won't find on the gasoline engine. Of course, I mentioned air, the engine air and the cabin air filter. But the fuel filter is one of them. And then the only other thing that's interesting on this engine is it has a timing belt, which is unusual for a modern engine. Most, you know, late model vehicles don't have timing belts anymore, but this one does there hasn't been a Range Rover Land Rover product in quite some time that's had a timing belt. At least in North America, but this one does. So that's the one other unusual maintenance requirement.

Mark:  Because that does have to be replaced on a certain strict maintenance schedule. 

Bernie: It does. And if you're wondering when that is, it is a 180,000 kilometres or a112,000 miles. That's the recommended interval. So now, if the vehicle is 10 years old, you probably want to consider doing it. If you haven't got up to that mileage, but you know, they generally build these pretty well, but a failure of that belt will cause catastrophic engine damage. If it's old enough, it's probably won't be worth fixing, but if you do fix it, it'll be expensive. So the belt needs to be done at the right time. 

Mark: So how are these Range Rover diesels for reliability? 

Bernie: Well, so far so good. We don't work on a lot of them and they're not very common. I mean, there are a lot of Range Rovers around Vancouver and not a lot of diesels. So we've got a few clients with them, not many compared to gasoline models. So far they've been good.

Hopefully they will be a better quality, more reliable product than Mercedes, which we see a lot of. Not that Mercedes are bad, but there's just a lot that goes wrong with them. But hopefully these are going to end up being more reliable in the long run, but so far so good. They are nice and they've got good power, good torque. They can haul a lot of weight. So it kind of adds something, if you're looking to haul weight and you know say tow a boat or something, this could be a better vehicle than the gasoline powered one. 

Mark: If you're looking for service for your Range Rover in Vancouver, BC Canada, you can call Pawlik automotive. You can reach them at (604) 327-7112 to book your appointment. You have to call and book ahead, they're busy. Check out the website pawlikautomotive.com or our YouTube channel Pawlik Auto Repair. Both have hundreds, no exaggeration. Hundreds. We've been doing this for nine years. Hundreds of videos on all makes and models and types of repairs. Of course, thank you so much for watching and listening to our podcasts. We really appreciate it. And thanks Bernie. 

Bernie: Thanks Mark. And thanks for watching.

2006 Land Rover LR3 Transfer Case Repair

Mark: Hi, it's Mark from Top Local. I'm here with Bernie Pawlik, Pawlik Automotive in Vancouver. 23 time winners of Best Auto Repair in Vancouver as voted by their customers. 23 times Bernie we're talking cars. How are you doing? 

Bernie: Excellent. 

Mark: So today's victim 2006 Land Rover LR3 that had a transfer case issue. What was going on with this Land Rover? 

Bernie: Yeah. So the owner of the vehicle brought the vehicle to us with a complaint of a front end noise. While she was driving the vehicle. There was some kind of grinding kind of noises going on in the front end. That was the complaint. 

Mark: So what testing and diagnosis did you do to find the problem?

Bernie: Well, the first step of course, is the road test the vehicle. Listen for the complaint, which we heard quite easily. And then from there put the vehicle up on a hoist. Pretty sure it was some kind of drive train issue, a bearing of some sort, maybe an axle bearing or something.

So we listened to all the drive train components and found that the the transfer case was the culprit, there was likely a worn out bearing inside the transfer case that was causing the issue. 

Mark: So what does a transfer case do? 

Bernie: So transfer case, you'll find this only in four wheel and all wheel drive vehicles of which of course Land Rovers are. Transfer cases basically transfer the motion of the vehicle like normally this would be a rear wheel drive vehicle, but with the transfer case that also runs the drive shaft to the forward axle. So it gives you a four wheel drive. Now transfer cases used to be at one-time a pretty simple component of just a big chain that would run the drive shaft to the front axle.

And most of them had two speeds. So you'd have like an extra low range. This would be kind of, we're going back into the days of four wheel drive trucks. So you'd have like a low range and you could crawl up steep hills and use the kind of utility that four wheel drives were meant for. Well, this vehicle has that capability, but it also with modern vehicles, they're all wheel drive. So there has to be some slippage between the front and rear axle. Otherwise things will bind up when you go around corners. And if you've ever owned an old truck that has, you know, a four wheel drive system in it, you'll notice if you put it in four wheel drive, you go around the corner and the vehicle will almost stop moving because it locks up. 

So these have slipped clutches inside there's some complexity to them and also with Land Rover, they have these different terrain control module. So they can adjust the transfer case to lock in different ways, depending on what you're going over. Perhaps favouring the front or rear axle or both, it really depends on what's going on.

So there's a lot inside a transfer case on a lot of modern vehicles. And this one. Yeah. So that's basically what we got. 

Mark: So, is this a common problem? 

Bernie: No, this is actually the first transfer case we've done on a Land Rover and this vehicle actually has about 240,000 kilometres. So it lasted quite a long time. Overall and in general, I mean, transfer cases do last a long time. Unless you abuse them or they develop a leak and you run them out of oil, but this one was full of oil. It just basically I'd say just wore out from old age. 

Mark: What did you do to repair the issue? 

Bernie: This one, we put a used unit in it. It was at the time we sort of looked into options. It seemed to be the most cost effective. And for the customer, not wanting to keep the vehicle much longer, again with the mileage, this was the least expensive option to do, as opposed to repairing it or replacing with a new unit. So, you know, had had much lower mileage and being newer, we could have done something like that but replace it with something new or rebuilt it. But let's just go through some pictures right now. 

So after the installation, we just took the old one apart to see what was actually wrong with it. And we figured it was a bad bearing. So this is the transfer case separated. And you've got basically a big planetary gear on this side. There's a number of clutch packs in here that again, allow that four wheel drive control. This is the chain that drives between the front drive shaft and the rear drive shaft.

2006 Land Rover LR3 Transfer Case Repair
2006 Land Rover LR3 Transfer Case Repair
2006 Land Rover LR3 Transfer Case Repair
2006 Land Rover LR3 Transfer Case Repair
2006 Land Rover LR3 Transfer Case Repair
2006 Land Rover LR3 Transfer Case Repair
2006 Land Rover LR3 Transfer Case Repair

So the power generally goes through this direction. If you can see my mouse pointer, this goes to the rear drive shaft and this area here, this goes to the front. So again, you've got some nice big gears. That chain is enormous. It's probably about two inches. Thick you know, there's a lot of strain on that chain, so it needs to be tough and well-built, and that's actually an item that does wear out on transfer cases from time to time. The chain will stretch and you have like a banging kind of sound inside the transfer case, but not in this vehicle. 

This is the actuator motor that controls the transfer case on this vehicle. Again, you know, in the olden days, you'd have a lever in your vehicle and you'd have to, you know, make sure you're either stopped or whatever condition in. You could pull this lever and shift into different drive ranges or four wheel drive and two wheel drive. But this is done electronically with this motor. Interesting little note on here, I noticed that if dropped, scrap. So you don't want to drop this motor because it'll probably be wrecked, although I guess you could try it and see, but there's the electrical connector right there. So that's the actuator motor, which sits on the side of the transfer case. 

Now, as we tore further into it, again, you can see some of these, these are clutch packs. You won't find these on a cruder type of four wheel drive vehicle, but you will on the Land Rover because again, it's got the all wheel drive capability. So there's certain amount of slip in these clutches and there's controls that will make them, I'd say it firmer or less from like grippier or less grippier, depending on what's happening. And this is where using the proper fluid is also critical because it has certain coefficients of friction that are important. And if you don't use the right fluid there can be a problem. 

So again, looking a little further down, there's a planetary gear. This is an item that's actually operated from the actuator motor. You can see it'll move various items to allow, you know, high and low ranges as well as different  four wheel drive. What am I trying to say?  Locking abilities. Looking further, and this is actually the culprit. It's the front bearing in the transfer case. This is what we found was worn. And this you can see a bit of the oil is left over and you see all these nice little, beautiful, artistic looking patterns. That's all metal particles floating around inside the oils. So that stuff is floating through the transfer case and of course grinding everything else up.

Could we have just changed this bearing? Possibly, but and cleaned everything probably would have been quiet, who knows how long it would last though, you know, with having all that metal in there that can really create quite a few issues.

This is the bucket of oil we pulled out of the vehicles. It's kind of a telltale sign of severe damage. Again, this oil should be clear and it's full of metallic particles. And what else have we got here for pictures? I think we're nearly done, not a little, you know, a few, this is a little spacer that goes next to the bearing. You can see all these little shiny bits those are all chunks of metal from the bearing. 

I think that's enough looking at horrifically worn parts. 

Mark: So why a used unit? Why not just replace it with a new unit? 

Bernie: Cost. I didn't, you know, I don't know that we actually even priced out the cost of a brand new transfer case. It would be thousands and thousands of dollars and used one is much cheaper. And generally these pieces are repairable, but you know, again with the time involved, it's a lot of extra labor to do it.

 If it was a younger vehicle, I'd probably been worthwhile. We got a much lower mileage transfer case. So it shouldn't go for years. And you're asking if it's a common problem and I'd say it's not. These are pretty well built units. So with lower mileage, it should go over quite a few years without any further problems.

Mark: And so how did the vehicle work after you had done all the repairs? 

Bernie: Oh, it's good. Awesome. Nice and quiet. And ready to tackle the city streets or the mountains if you want to go that far. 

 Mark: There you go. If you need to have some service done on your Land Rover, Pawlik Automotive are experts. You can reach them at (604) 327-7112 to book your appointment. Check out the website pawlikautomotive.com hundreds of videos on there on repairs on all makes and models and types of vehicles, types of repairs. The YouTube channel is the same, hundreds of videos on there. We've been doing this for almost nine years. We really appreciate you watching and listening to the podcast. And thanks Bernie. 

Bernie: Thank you, Mark. Thanks for watching and listening.

2015 Range Rover Sport SVR, Maintenance Service

Mark: Hi, it's Mark from Top Local. I'm here with my good friend, Bernie Pawlik of Pawlik Automotive in Vancouver. Owner of the best auto service experience in Vancouver and 23 time winners of Best Auto Repair place in Vancouver as voted by their customers. And we're talking SUV's today. How are you doing Bernie?

Bernie: Good. I love that introduction. My good friend. You're my good friend too. Yeah, I'm doing really well. 

Mark: So today's victim 2015 Range Rover Sport SVR. There's a maintenance service. What was going on with this vehicle?

Bernie: Yeah, the vehicle came to our shop for a routine maintenance service.  It was an, A service with a tire rotation and basically took care of that. I think a cabin air filter as well. That was all that was due on the vehicle at this point in time.

Mark: How many kilometres was on the vehicle? 

Bernie: Yeah it had 64,000 Ks.  

Mark: So how often do these vehicles need service? 

Bernie: Well, it depends on your driving routine. So I had to look at the maintenance schedules and there there's basically two of them there's normal use and then there's, what do they call it? I can't remember the word they use, but I'll just call it severe use which is probably not the right word, but the definition of severe use is short stop and go trips, which pretty much everyone does. Towing. Frequent cold weather starts and off-road use. There's a lot of Range rovers that are very capable of off-road that never see the off-road, but it's that frequent stop and go that puts almost every one of us into that severe driving category, whether you believe it or not. 

So the regular schedule for the severe use is about every 13,000 kilometres, but it's 26,000 for the normal usage which is really, really an awful long time to go between services, in my opinion. So I mean, I think 13 Ks is pretty much stretching it out as far as you'd want to go and then on any sort of usage.

But if you do just nothing but highway driving, you can probably get away with a little longer timeframe. 

Mark: So this is an SVR model. What makes it different from the supercharge model? 

Bernie: Well, it's got more horsepower. It's got 500 in this year, 550 horsepower, as opposed to, I think it's 510. So there's an extra 40 horsepower. The body of the vehicle looks pretty much the same. I'll just get a picture up of the vehicle right now.

2015 Range Rover Sport SVR, Maintenance Service

The vehicle itself looks pretty much the same. I mean, there's some SVR badging in a couple of spots, but I think the front air dams, I believe are a little different. But mostly the vehicle looks the same. You have to kind of look closely to see this on SVR model.

The braking system is bigger. It's got some engine modifications, the interior is different and the suspension has some upgrades as well. So just all those items that are already really pretty high performance in a supercharge model are just beefed up that much more in this model.

Mark: So this is a normally aspirated model, I'm assuming. How do they get that extra horsepower out of, how do they get the extra ponies out of this engine compared to the supercharged? 

Bernie: Well, actually the supercharged, so you've got your regular Range Rover Sport, that's the naturally aspirated and then you've got the supercharge, which is 510 horsepower.

And then you've got this model, the SVR, which is a supercharged on steroids. You know, I don't know all the exact details, but I'm suspecting because the engine looks, you know, it's the same size engine. That's not any larger displacement. I think most of the modifications are in tuning, software, those kinds of details.

There's a lot you can do to adjust transmission shift points, that doesn't add horsepower, but how the power is delivered to the wheels. But just how the supercharger set up, valve timing, various items, you know, that can make the modifications. I don't know if there's actually any internal engine differences on these things, but you know, through some programming and maybe just a slightly boosted supercharger, you can add an awful lot of extra horsepower. 

Mark: And maybe affect lifespan of the vehicle as well?

Bernie: Well with any performance modifications, you're bound to strain the vehicle a little bit, but if it's a well-built engine it can probably handle it. Unless of course, every time you're going to be flooring it you know, that's going to be a little harder. But just for everyday usage, it's not going to strain the engine a whole lot more. But there are certainly items, as we found with the timing chain replacements we've done in these supercharged engines, they seem to fail a lot more frequently than the non supercharged engines. Obviously because the engines just accelerate so much quicker and there's so much more load on the moving parts. 

Mark: So that's a lot of horsepower that we're getting used to, I guess, with these big SUV's. We know it performs really well. Is it reliable? 

Bernie: Yeah, I'd say so. You know, I mean, it's a Range Rover. We talk a lot about the reliability issues. I can probably make a list on my 10 fingers of how many things happen to these vehicles. Timing chain issues. This is a 2015, we've yet to do a timing chain on that model year or whether this one will need it. Hard to know. They may have changed things up to the point where they don't fail as frequently. But I don't have any evidence to see that's happening. You know, there's timing chain, supercharger nose cones, suspension bushings is common on Land Rover / Range Rover products for years and years. Air suspension issues, specifically the compressors. I think I've covered it, you know? There's the sway bars. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. I don't know if I've used all my 10 fingers yet, but there's a lot. 

So anyhow, I mean, there are great vehicles. They make as I often say, they make for a very good used value because they depreciate so heavily. So if you're okay to spend a few extra dollars on car maintenance and repairs, it's a great vehicle to buy used. But also a beautiful vehicle to buy new. If you have the money. 

Mark: If you want to cruise in powerful luxury, this is the ticket, the Range Rover. 

Bernie: Yeah, actually I didn't mention we talked about performance. I think the zero to 60 spec on this is just over four seconds, which is unbelievable for a SUV that weighs over 5,000 pounds. It's, I mean, that's a lot of power and get up and go and you know, apparently this car is good on a track too. So that whatever they've done to the suspension, you know, it's for a beastly vehicle , it's nice to know you can go off road into the bush in style. Or you can go zipping around a track and probably beat a lot of other cars out there. 

Mark: So if you're looking for service for your Range Rover, experts in Vancouver are Pawlik Automotive. You can reach them at (604) 327-7112. To book your appointment, you have to call and book ahead. They're busy. Or check out the website pawlikautomotive.com. There's hundreds of videos, including many on Range rovers, land rovers. As well, the YouTube channel Pawlik auto repair, same thing, eight years worth. We've been talking about these vehicles for a long time. Thank you for checking out the podcast. We really appreciate your listening. Thanks Bernie. 

Bernie: Thanks Mark. And thanks for watching.

Range Rover Sport, Engine Replacement

Mark: Hi, it's Mark from Top Local. I'm here with Bernie Pawlik, Pawlik Automotive in Vancouver. Vancouver's best auto service experience. 23 time winners of Best Auto Repair in Vancouver as voted by their customers. And we're talking cars. How are you doing Bernie? 

Bernie: Doing well? 

Mark: So we're going to talk a little further. We've touched on this Range Rover Sport already. What, this has an engine replacement. What was going on with this vehicle? Let's look at the whole story. Yeah, let's look at the whole story. 

Bernie: So last week I did a video of walking around with the cab of the vehicle off. The engine had been overheated and, needed to be replaced in the easiest way to do that is to lift the cab off the vehicle.

So we did a little walk around of the vehicle last week, this week, we're going to look at the engine. What was wrong with it? What we did to replace it, repair it and get the vehicle back on the road. 

Mark: So based on just referencing last week's video with the body off of the chassis and the engine, et cetera, it looks like a whole pile of work.

Bernie: That was just the beginning  Getting the cab off is just the beginning. And then from there we remove the engine from the chassis, disconnected it from the transmission, pulled it out. I mean, in the good old days, you could just do that without pulling any cabs off or dropping cradles with engines and transmissions, which we do on a lot of vehicles. You'd  just be able to hook up a hoist, a crane and pull the engine out. This is much more complicated. We have to remove the cab to get to that stage. So we pulled it out and we started dismantling the engine. I think we'll just get right into some pictures here and you can keep asking questions. 

So let's have a look here. 

Mark: When this vehicle came in. What was the presenting problem? Was it just not working? Was it running badly? What, like, how did you go about diagnosing that the engine was bad?

Bernie: Yeah, it, it was running really rough, there's a check engine light on with a misfire codes for pretty much every engine cylinder. You could see steam blowing out of the cooling system. And the engine, I can't remember all the other details, but those are enough to, you know, we knew the engine would've been overheating. And this job was actually referred to us from another shop that had done some work on it.

But doing engine replacement was beyond the scope of what he wanted to be doing. So we knew that the vehicle was coming in for an overheat and a pretty severe problem because he'd replaced some hoses and thermostat and some simpler things, in hopes to fix a problem. But it didn't. 

So here we have the engine out of the vehicle, where we walked around last time with the video and you can see things. We use the chassis of the vehicle to provide a nice little tray to put all our parts and pieces. And this is actually what the engine out it's on an engine stand.


Range Rover Sport, Engine Replacement
Range Rover Sport, Engine Replacement
Range Rover Sport, Engine Replacement
Range Rover Sport, Engine Replacement
Range Rover Sport, Engine Replacement
Range Rover Sport, Engine Replacement
Range Rover Sport, Engine Replacement
Range Rover Sport, Engine Replacement
Range Rover Sport, Engine Replacement
Range Rover Sport, Engine Replacement
Range Rover Sport, Engine Replacement

It's actually been dismantled. The cylinder heads are off. The timing chains are off. There's the engine oil cooler it sits in the valley. Those are the head gaskets and, cylinder heads have been moved somewhere else. So this is actually cut a little far into the disassembly process, but you can see, this is the transmission, the torque converter, which is where the engine crankshaft connects up to it.

So, let's just get right into some other pictures here. So the next step actually with this is to do a physical inspection of things. There's a cylinder head here. Now this is, we clean this up a little bit unfortunately I couldn't find the head gaskets.

It's been a few days since we did the job and they're lying there, but there was very evident leakage, between these two gaskets. The head gasket is a multi-layer steel gasket. They're very thin layers of steel that are put together, that formed the bond. This it's an aluminum engine block, aluminum cylinder head. Multi-layer steel seems to be the technology that's used on all of these things. But you can see some black marks where combustion gases had crossed through the cylinder head indicating that this head was severely warped. So, what we did is we cleaned the head up, measured it with a straight edge bar and feeler gauges.

And let's have a look at how that came out. So there's the head. The straight edge bar, this is a piece of steel that is absolutely straight. It's a fairly expensive piece of metal, but it's machined absolutely flat. So you can use it for cylinder heads, any services you want to measure for flatness.

So what we do, take the middle cylinder and we run a feeler gauge in here, and this had eight thousands of an inch of warpage, which is actually right at the spec for it being garbage. So the cylinder head, right at that point, the engines done well, at least the cylinder heads are done. Of course the engine block needs to be measured as well.

So just going a little further into this eight thousands of an inch. A lot of times we'll have these, it might be like three or four. The machine shop can take these. They can machine it flat. So it's a hundred percent, you know, a zero, you wouldn't be able to fit any thousands of an inch feeler gauge through that particular bore there or between those holes. So this is actually looking at the engine block. So over the engine block, we measured that there's five thousands of an inch warpage, which is also too high. And that would involve dismantling the engine, taking the pistons out, putting the it's called decking the block, between doing all that, all that dismantling. Huge amount of money.

So we had to come up with another alternative, which was a used engine. I'll just get a couple more quick pictures here. These are the cylinders. Again, you can actually see a little bit of evidence of this combustion leakage across here. There's a shiny area here and some gases and things that have escaped past these things. Telltale sign of a problem.

That was probably why the compression was bad or sorry, the misfire codes, because you lose this compression when the cylinder head won't seal around that area. In addition, coolant of course can escape from, these are the coolant jackets here. It will escape from here into the cylinders or cylinder pressure will escape into the jacket. So that's what causes that. Now sorry, where are we? I'm getting lost here with my pictures. Too many buttons to click on. The engine. So, our alternative was to get a used engine and replace it with that. I mean, a new engine rebuilt or new engine from Land Rover insanely expensive proposition. So we managed to obtain a used engine, not cheap, but, that was the option that we went with. 

Mark: So how do you know that the used engine doesn't have the same issues? 

Bernie: Excellent question. So the first thing we do is, we buy all our engines from a reputable auto wrecker, or they're sourced from a variety of areas. It used to be that we just call a wrecking yard down the road and they'd have one, but being a vehicle like this, it's kind of a specialty. So there are companies around that they'll source engines all over North America. This one actually came from Oregon, had very low mileage. So we kind of count on that as being, and again, a reputable record. They can inspect fluids and look at things to determine the engine's in pretty good shape, but there were some things we did to this engine.

Timing chain, specifically. We looked at it. We've talked about timing chains in these engines. We figured that they weren't in fantastic shape. So we replaced the timing chains and guides while we had this engine out. Much easier job, certainly added some cost, but now the owner has a good solid engine with good timing chains that will definitely not cause any problems. 

We'll just get another view here. We put the engine back in without the valve covers on, so you can kind of see a view, this is the used engine, back in, new timing chains. View with the valve cover off. Water pump we replaced as well just to make sure. Things like water pump and thermostat you know, needed to be replaced at the same time.

So we've talked a lot about, this is a gasoline direct injected engine. It injects the fuel right into the cylinder and I'll actually just grab another quick picture here while we're at it because you can see, this is the bottom of the cylinder head. These are the valves, the intake valves, exhaust valves, the spark plug screws in here. And that is where the fuel injector sits. So this is what you have in a gasoline direct injected engine, a fuel injector that says right in the combustion chamber. In the past, fuel injectors would spray on the back of these intake valves and keep them clean. 

In examining this engine, we found, this is just one cylinder, severe carbon deposits. This is what happens if, now, it's probably something to do with the engine overheating as well. But these are some of the deposit that can form in the back of the valve and certainly affect the performance of your engine.

This one here is not too bad, they're in the same cylinder but for some reason, this one is just loaded full of carbon deposits. So, that's just a little view of what things look like when the carbon deposit gets severe. So this is why we recommend cleaning the gasoline direct injection system to remove this. However, doing cleaning may not remove that level of carbon deposited. That's another couple of quick views. There's our Land Rover, still a good looking vehicle, even seven years old. 

And, there's the temperature gauge. I just show this because this is something you need to keep your eye on when you're driving. Some vehicles don't have them. Most of them do. If yours does, get to know it and get to know where it sits when it's normal. I took this picture, after the engine had been repaired. Running it, this is the normal area where the gauge sits when everything's working well, it'll be up here on a warm engine when it's cold. Of course, it's down here. It takes a while to warm up. So get to know this gauge, whatever kind of vehicle you drive, especially a Range Rover.

Mark: So 137,000 kilometres, a pretty catastrophic engine failure from overheating and a, I imagine in incredibly large bill to fix, but probably a lot cheaper than buying a new Range Rover. However, how do you prevent this from happening? 

Bernie: Well, there's a few things. So that's why I spent some time with the picture of the gauge. Get, get to know your gauge, watch your gauge. Of course, you've got to keep your eye on the road. There's a lot to look at while you're driving a car. And so looking at a gauge, isn't the thing I always look at, if you're going up steep hills, mountain grades, keep an eye on the gauge. But when you're driving, you know, if there's anything that feels a little off, maybe your heat's not working for a second, or maybe there's a little weird noise in the engine. Maybe there's a little steam that you see, just some indication, look at your gauge. That's the time to do it. 

A lot of cars have warning lights in addition to gauges, or they have a warning light instead of a gauge and it's always red. It'll show something that looks like a symbol of something like an engine heating up. Shut the engine off, you know, if your gauge is up, shut the engine off. If you happen to be somewhere where you have to drive, drive as fast as you can to a point of safety and pull over and shut the engine off. That's critical. 

What happened with this engine obviously, is it got too hot and ran too hot for too long. So, if you run low and out of coolant, that's the worst thing. So again, keep an eye for leaks. If you see steam coming out from under your hood. That's an indicator. If you smell, antifreeze as a distinct smell, you smell something odd. That's unusual. It might be worth pulling over.

Look at your gauge, have a look at things, just see what's happening. Those are really the things to do. You just got to prevent the engine from overheating. I mean, had this engine not overheated, it probably would go, you know, easily 200,000 kilometres. I mean, the timing chains would need to be done at some point, probably by 137 Ks, they may have already been done. The carbon deposit on the valves, who knows if that was from bad maintenance or from the engine overheating. But you know, again, that may have caused some problems, but generally speaking, you know, the overheating, had that not happened this engine would still be running strong. 

Mark: And with gasoline direct injection, do a valve clean. 

Bernie: Exactly. Yeah. We have a service that we do, it's usually recommended every 30, 40,000 kilometres. What's that 20 to 20,000 something miles. If you're used to in miles, it's not a very expensive service. Doesn't take, you know, it's kind of a thing, we need the vehicle for a day and do it. And it's well worth the prevention. And I think I mentioned using top tier gas is important and changing your oil on a regular basis. It's also critical to prevent those deposits. 

Mark: So essentially when to keep these engines at such a high level of performance, to get the maximum amount of fuel mileage out of them, but also to reduce the amount of pollution that they produce because burning dinosaurs is just a dirty process to begin with. There are incredibly complex at this point, and that takes major maintenance on a regular basis to keep them running right. Sum it up?

Bernie: Absolutely. And you know, it's an interesting, I don't know if  dichotomy is the right word, but cars have become more reliable. So people used to at one time, they need to get tuneups and flush their cooling systems once or twice a year and change their oil every 3000 miles like regular things. Cars don't need to do that. You can go a long ways between maintenance services. They're really reliable. They start, they go, you know, they're not fussy like they used to be, but with that, like you said, there's a level of complexity, but you've also gotta be really on top of your maintenance.

You've got to know what it is. You got to do it. You can't go a little longer. You know, the schedules are already stretched way out. Changing oil is a waste of oil. So you know, manufacturers have gone, Hey, how long can we stretch this out? Well they're stretching it out to the max. So if you're waiting until it's supposed to be changed, it's almost too long or that's the time. 

Mark: So the easy way to look after that, is to deal with a service company that will remind you, that sends you regular reminders. Hey, it's been six months. Hey we think you're going to, based on your record of driving, we know you're probably at the point where you need to get in here so we can do a service and check over your vehicle. Make sure it's running properly.

Bernie: Absolutely. And a lot of cars have warnings that will come on say due for service, just when that light comes on, get it done. Don't wait. You know I mean you can wait a week, but don't wait, don't wait for them months. 

Mark: Don't cover up the check engine light. 

Bernie: That's right. Yeah, don't do that either. Yeah, that's right. Exactly. 

Mark: So, if you're looking for service for your Range Rover in Vancouver, and you want to make sure it runs the longest amount of time and as reliably as possible and avoid those massive bills, the guys to call are Pawlik Automotive. You can reach them at (604) 327-7112 to book your appointment. You have to call and book ahead. They're super busy right now. It's booking up fast because Christmas they're going to take a week off. So get your vehicle in there. Get ready for winter. It's getting cold out there. Check out the website pawlikautomotive.com. Hundreds of videos on there all makes and models and types of repairs.

Our YouTube channel Pawlik Auto Repair. There's eight years of videos on there. And of course, thank you so much for watching and listening to the podcast. We really appreciate it. Thanks Bernie. 

Bernie: Thanks Mark. And thanks for watching.

2013 Range Rover, Cab Off Pt 1

Mark: Hi, it's Mark from Top Local. I'm here with Bernie Pawlik, Pawlik Automotive in Vancouver, 23 time winners of Best Auto Repair in Vancouver as voted by their customers. So we're talking cars. How are you doing Bernie? 

Bernie: Good. 

Mark: So 2013 Range Rover Supercharged, you took the body off. What the heck was going on with this vehicle? 

Bernie: Yeah. So we've got a kind of exciting show for you. At least we hope that we can pull it off. 2013 Range Rover Supercharged, basically engine overheated and damaged. Needed the engine replaced, repaired or replaced. And so we, started the procedure, the best way to get the engine out of this vehicle, believe it or not as to actually lift the cab off. It's like a Ford F350 or something diesel, you know, where you basically take the cab off to service the engine. You know, we do a lot of in car repairs and this is actually the first time we've pulled a cab off one of these.

 So I thought it was pretty amazing what you find underneath the cab. So I think we'll just get right into the the video. We're not going to show you the full end repair. This is just kind of the preliminary part. This will be part one of at least one more podcast.

So let me get the screen share going. I apologize it might be a little clunky getting stuff up. So this is a video and I'm going to kind of scroll through it manually, but that is basically the cab off the vehicle. and I'm going to go, we'll kind of go backwards a little bit here. You can see the cab and we didn't clean the leaves out yet, which you can see in the wheel well. That's basically the cab off the vehicle. Back down, there's the engine and radiator, and I'm going to go back right to the very beginning. And we're gonna kind of go through this bit by bit, and I'll just show you some of the things you know, on this vehicle, because it's pretty cool.

I mean, most impressive thing I found is just how much stuff is underneath this vehicle. You know, it's, it's shorter obviously than a Ford diesel truck, but there's just so many bits and pieces and parts, which is what makes these vehicles fantastic. So if you can see right here, I mean, they're... 

Mark: Can we wait a second? How long did it take you to get the body off of the vehicle? 

Bernie: Yeah, it actually took up, I think it took about five hours. 

Mark: There's gotta be a heck of a lot of stuff that needs to be taken apart. 

Bernie: Well, there is a lot, but this vehicle is designed. I mean, you'll see, as you look around the pictures, you can see that, the vehicles designed, they build the whole chassis everything, engine, transmission, drive train, all the suspension components. Everything's put together and then they drop the body on top. So there's a lot of wiring. There are brake lines. But it's actually not that difficult of a job. It's complex for sure, but not that difficult. So, this is with the body off again, there's the front, the bumpers sits over front here and you've got your radiator, your air AC compressor condenser in the front here, some air conditioning pipes. The engine sits here. It's a supercharged engines with superchargers on top.

This little thing flopped here, that's the power steering reservoir. So again, that needs to be unhooked from the body because it's attached to the body. There's an air spring here, air strut for the suspension, the left front wheel. And this is one of the places where the cab mounts down to the vehicle. So it's a cushioned rubber insulator, large bolt goes through it to mount the cab. 

We look back a little further. We're looking back into the transmission, the transfer case, and I'll just move the video forward and we'll just kind of look down the car and I'll try to stop it at the best kind of picture quality I can. See if we get something a little clearer here. There's a transmission, the transfer case, this sort of, sorry, it's a little fuzzy here, but this is the transfer case actuator motor. You know, with these vehicles, they have all those various modes of, you can adjust it for sand or grass or uphills and downhills. There's a number of components in the system, but this motor here we'll be changing, with those different modes. It'll change the transfer case operations. So you can see this as the drive shaft here. It goes to the front axle, the drive shaft to the rear, the mufflers, exhaust pipes, for one side of the vehicle.

So we'll just move a little further down. I'll just on the engine too, these are the ignition coils on top of the engine. You normally don't see this cause there's plastic covers over top. So there were kind of moving past the transmission, transfer case and we're moving towards the rear end of the vehicle. Here we obviously see the rear tires. You talked before about this, but this vehicle has the sway bar, the electronic sway bar system, hydraulic sway bars in front and rear. So this it's so nice seeing all this stuff off, cause it's so easy to replace it now. Whereas, you know, when we have to replace these parts in the vehicle, it takes hours just to haul these things up.

But this is the hydraulic unit for the sway bar where you can basically disconnect the sway bar. We did a previous conversation on one of these. Parking brake on this as a module and cables. And that's where this is located. This leads out to the wheels again, like just super simple to replace. Normally there's a, a body on top of this vehicle. Rear suspension. Again, there's mufflers around the back, for the nice quiet exhaust that you get on these vehicles. 

We'll just kind of wander around the back of the vehicle. There you can see that, sorry that was a nice clear picture earlier. But again, the hydraulic unit for this air spring. There's some wiring that needed to be disconnected, wiring connector. So there's quite a few of them that needed to be disconnected. There was one around the back, the back bumper area, the spare tire. You can see parking brake module, the air suspension unit. And, there's one of the rear air struts, another cab mount. So you can see the cab mounts there. There's the rear differential and the drive shafts. So again, I don't if you can see but everything's very, there's a lot in this vehicle, a lot put together, you can see why these vehicles are not cheap to buy.

You're buying a lot of components. When you go on these vehicles. Fuel tank. This would be where the fuel pump is located, fuel lines, vents, and so on. And then just trying to find a clear picture. There's a rear drive shaft. 

You still with me there Mark? Am I? Yep. It's still some somewhat interesting. 

Transmission again, we've got a little blurry video. Here's a catalytic converters. Again, it's a dual exhaust system, so there's one on each side here. Oxygen sensors are these components here. So again, we're looking forward here, the right front tire, the suspension strut, the engine. We'll just work our way around here. What do we got? Good, clear view of the transmission and the engine. So, what we ended up doing with the engine, you're going to see some pictures in the future, but, we ended up removing the cylinder heads because you know, first of all, the engine had been overheated.

We assume the cylinder heads were bad. We, we did end up, replacing the engine with a used one because the engine was, it was too badly damaged from the overheating. And we'll talk more about that, but you know, these valve covers, you can remove all these components in the car, but when it comes to the cylinder heads, there's just too many pieces crammed right against the firewall and against the body to remove it in the car. So this is why we took it out. And once you've got it out, we pulled the engine off the transmission, put it on an engine stand and just made the repairs much easier to do.

Mark: Why did the engine overheat? 

Bernie: I don't know, this job was referred to us from another shop, and he had done some repairs on it. I think he replaced a thermostat and water pump. I don't know the history of that, but he just didn't want to get into doing a service so large, take on something like this. So he referred the customer to us. And, so that's why we're doing the work. So I don't know the cause of it yet. I know that there were no leaks when the vehicle is brought in, but certainly once we get this engine back together, we're going to be extremely careful to road test it and make sure that everything's in good shape.

There's no leaks. There's nothing that's going to cause it to overheat again. Because certainly after a repair like this, you don't want that to happen.

Mark: Can I ask you one more question. How would that show up? How would an overheated engine typically look, I'm driving it. Well, how would I know?

Bernie: Well, if your car has a temperature gauge, the gauge will probably shoot up to high. So this is important. You know, those gauges are there for a reason. Most cars don't have much in the way of gauges anymore, other than a speedometer and a gas gauge, and some of them, you know, a tachometer for engine speed.

And then, you know, a coolant temperature gauge. Even a lot of vehicles don't have temperature gauges anymore. They have warning lights. So if you have a car with a warning light and the red, and it'll always be red, if it comes on. Shut the engine off. If the temperature gauge goes up full, shut the engine off. You'll also notice and you may not see it overheating it like early signs, you'll notice coolant, dripping on the ground. It's antifreeze. It comes in a variety of colours depending on the vehicle. You have usually for a Land Rover, Range Rover, Jaguar, it's an orange coloured antifreeze. You'll notice an orangy liquid on the ground. You might get steam under your hood. Those are some of the things. And, also too, if your heating stops working all of a sudden, you might be low on coolant because the heating system in the car, it uses the hot coolant from the engine to warm your car.

So you're in the winter and all of a sudden you've got no heat. That could be an engine that's low on coolant and possibly overheating. That answer it?

Mark:  Yep, absolutely. 

Bernie: Cool. Excellent. Just another thing, this is sort of with the fuel injection, this is a direct fuel injection system, which we've talked about in other podcasts and different vehicles. So this is a high pressure fuel system. There's high pressure pumps located way down on the side of the engine, which we'll probably look at it in our next video. And again, pipes, these are extremely high pressure, so it's important that they're all fitted properly and don't cause any problems or leaks.

Coming around the front of the engine we've got another reservoir. There's a radiator, a good view with the hoses off. And, of course that's a critical thing to make sure it's working properly. And if it's plugged or leaking, that can cause engine overheating. I think we're coming around to the cab where we started. So we're full circle around the vehicle. 

Mark: So as an owner, one of the things that would prevent this from happening would be that I'm paying attention to the engine temperature gauge, or the lights that are happening. Lights aren't as accurate as a gauge. But if I'm noticing that engine temperature starting to creep up, I'm going over the Coquihalla or something and I'm matting it, trying to set speed records or whatever stupid reason I'm trying to go too fast. And the engine is getting too hot time to stop. Time to slow down. 

Bernie: Absolutely. Especially you mentioned the Coquihalla for those of you who don't live in British Columbia that's a very steep long highway grade. Very, very steep goes for, I dunno 30-40 miles perhaps. It's all uphill and there's some exceptionally steep parts. So I mean, it's a place where, it's an engine testing ground. Every time you drive up that hill, you know you gotta watch your speed. A lot of engines have been cooked going up those hills. So, I mean, it's not unique, if you have any mountainous terrain, those are where things happen, but you can still overheat your engine on a flat surface. It just doesn't quite happen as fast and as critically as you do on a hill.

But, yeah watching your gauge, warning lights, these are important. They're put there for a reason. And you know, a lot of times we don't look at our gauge. I mean, I drive all the time. I don't look at my gauges most of the time, but you know, if you're going up a steep mountain drive, then I keep my eyes on the gauge.

It's a good thing to do. If you're driving up the mountain to go skiing somewhere. It's just, you know, it may not even be more than a 10 minute drive up a hill, keep your eye on the gauge. It's an important thing to do. Can save you a lot of money. Like a lot of money. This is a extremely expensive repair job.

 It used to be a few years ago, you know, engines weren't that expensive. They've just become astronomically expensive to buy even like there's nothing used that's cheap. It's very expensive.

Mark: They're very complicated. Burning dinosaurs is a complicated deal. 

Bernie: It's become complicated. It used to be really easy at one time, but then, you know, our air, I'm surprised any of us could breathe. Either you either burn the fuel and you don't care what comes out the tailpipe, or you make it nice and clean and powerful and then the engine becomes very exceptionally complex. 

Mark: So again, to reiterate the reason that you're going through all this shenanigans to pull a cab, the whole body off of this Range Rover is because ultimately it's cheaper and faster and easier for you to do the job right than it was to leave it on and try and finagle the engine out of there.

Bernie: Absolutely. Exactly. There's a few vehicles that are like this. I mean, they're not cars because car bodies, it's a unibody. It's all put together. But any like trucks, you know, like Ford, we've done a lot of F350s, you know, the 6 litre cab off things. But when they started doing the 6.4, 6.7 litre, the newer versions, they just designed the vehicle. Any repairs like this, the cab comes off. So they actually made it easier to remove the cab. Then like the 6 litres, we can still pull them off pretty fast, but the newer ones are even quicker because they know that, you know what, anything goes wrong here, let's just make the cab really easy to remove. So that's smart thinking. I guess, you know, a lot of people will go I miss the old days where the, you know, the engine compartment is huge and there was tons of, but they just don't make them all in, in there and doing stuff. Right. They don't make them.

I had a friend who had a, a Plymouth fury from the late sixties and it had a slant six engine. And when he opened the hood, it was so big. I remember looking, you know, you could actually put two, six cylinder engines in this thing. Of course you could get the thing with a 440 or a 426 Hemi, which would probably mostly fill the engine compartment, but there was just like, so much extra space. You go what the heck. That's why people bought Volkswagens and small imported cars because, Hey, wait a minute. There's just a lot of waste here. 

Mark: Yeah. Well, even in my 65 Valiant with the slant six, there was lots of room in there. 

Bernie: Yeah. Lots of room. Yeah. Yeah. And that was, that was a compact car. 

Mark: So if you have a Range Rover in Vancouver and you have a problem, the guys to see who are experts, deal with lots of all makes and models of Range Rovers, all years, all kinds of issues. These guys are the experts Pawlik Automotive. You can reach them at (604) 327-7112 to book your appointment. Check out the website pawlikautomotive.com. Hundreds, including many videos on Range Rovers, Land Rovers, Jaguars, et cetera, et cetera, all makes and models and all types of repairs. YouTube channel Pawlik Auto Repair. Same story there. Thanks for watching. We really appreciate it. If you like what we're doing, leave us a review. Thanks Bernie. 

Bernie: Thank you, Mark. Thanks for watching.

2008 Range Rover, Heater Core Replacement

Mark: Hi, it's Mark from Top Local. I'm here with Bernie Pawlik, Pawlik Automotive in Vancouver. Vancouver's best auto service experience. 22 time winners of Best Auto Repair in Vancouver as voted by their customers. And we're talking cars. How are you doing Bernie? 

Bernie: Doing very well. 

Mark: So today's victim a 2008 Range Rover that had a heater problem. What was going on with this vehicle? 

Bernie: So the owner brought this vehicle to our shop. His complaint was that there was no heat or very little heat blowing on the driver's side of the vehicle. So this is a vehicle that has two zone, split zone heating, and there was little or no heat on the driver's side of the vehicle, but it was blowing nicely on the passenger side. Like there was a lot of heat available for the passenger. 

Mark: So what kind of testing did you do to find the cause of this kind of weird problem? 

Bernie: Yeah. Well first of all with any vehicle it's important to know how this heating system works, but just in general, there are different compartments inside the heating box. Pretty complicated. And they all have actuator flaps. They have actuator motors, they have doors and flaps and things that divert the heat and air conditioning and cool air from different areas. And it'll blow it up to the defroster or down to the floor and to the vents and so on. So there are motors and actuators that do these. 

So we can observe the operation of these through our scan tool. So we did those tests, verified that all of those items were working properly. And there's also some, well, not so much visual because everything's hidden behind the dash, but you can often listen to hear if the motors are working. You can test for flow, and get a pretty good idea of how things are moving.

Sometimes you have to rip everything apart, but generally you can get an idea of how things are moving. So we've pretty much determined that that everything in that department was working well. And the problem is actually, a partially plugged heater core. 

Mark: So is the heater core in the dashboard or is that out in the front near the radiator?

Bernie: No, the heater core is inside the car. It's like a little mini radiator. We'll see a picture of it shortly. It's like a little mini radiator that sits inside the vehicle and it uses a heat that generated by the engine and it disperses it into the passenger compartment as needed.

Mark: So how can a partially plugged heater core then cause only one side of the heating system to work or not ? 

Bernie: Well this is the interesting thing. The way they do it on this Range Rover Sport is that the heater core sits flat right in the centre of the heater box. Again, I'll show pictures. Sits flat in the heater box and as the air is blown over it, one side of it will service the driver's side and the other side will service the passenger side. And it just so happened, as the heater core was plugged, the side on the left was basically plugged in the will side on the right still had free flowing coolant. So that would allow for the difference. So it's a little unusual because a lot of heater cores, all the air will flow over the heater core and it'll be dispersed through different doors to the vehicle. But in this case, it actually specifically takes air from one side of the heater core to do each side of the vehicle. 

Mark: So what's involved in replacing the heater core when it's all hidden in behind the dash?

Bernie: Well it's a lot of work. That's why I love making these podcasts because I like talking about the complexity of some of the things we take on in the shop.

So let's, let's get into some pictures. 

2008 Range Rover, Heater Core Replacement
2008 Range Rover, Heater Core Replacement
2008 Range Rover, Heater Core Replacement

So there's our Range Rover, 2008 sport model, beautiful vehicles still in fantastic shape for, 12 years old at this point in time. And, there's the dash partially removed. It's still not fully apart. This is just a partway through the process. I wasn't there to be able to take pictures of everything, but this is that nice panel that you'd see on the top. The big pad on the top has been off, the steering wheel's gone, all the front accessories, the radio and controls would be sort of in this area centre console. You can see a lot of things. An enormous amount of components have been removed. There's a lot of wiring in these vehicles, exceptionally complex, which is why people love them.

And the heater core is right where the yellow arrow is. So there's a box way further in here where the heater core is located. So this big aluminum frame has to come off still. And then once we're in there, then we can get to the heater core. And as I mentioned, the heater core sits flat across this area. So the air is blown up through here for the driver's side, you can see the different side vents here. This will be for the defrosting, this sort of the vent, the sort of face vent area and the floor vents all come down here and some of them go to the back. 

So, let's just get into one last picture here. This is the actual heater core. So there's two pipes that attach to this and coolant will flow through one area. And it'll basically flow through one way. These are the, you know, the cross pipes it'll flow through all of these and then back out the other end. And basically the heater core is plugged off somewhere in this area here.

So there's very little flow going through this area, but lots going through here where the passenger side is. So, that's in a nutshell, what we've got for pictures.

Mark: So, an amazing amount of work but how did it all work when all that work was done? 

Bernie: Yeah, it was good. Yep. Lots of heat, both sides. And, yeah, worked really well. 

Mark: So, is this a common problem on these vehicles or on any kind of vehicles? 

Bernie: Well, plugged heater cores we run into from time to time. On this vehicle, it happens occasionally. It's not a super common repair, but it does happen from time to time. You know, having one that's plugged like this and having it affect the heat on one side of the vehicle is kind of interesting. We had a BMW a while ago that had a similar issue. So perhaps a little more common on European design vehicles.

We do also find leaking heater cores. At least leaking heater cores used to be a much more common repair at one time. And you would know you had a leaking heater core because you get a weird smell in your vehicle of the antifreeze leaking and then you'd get steam on your, you know, go to defrost your window instead of it defrosting, it actually steams your window up. So that a one-time was a much more common repair. We don't see that quite so much anymore. So I think they're building heater cores much better. And that's a good thing because as you can see how much work is involved in removing them, it's a lot on many vehicles.

So,  we do a, you know, maybe a heater core a month kind of thing, maybe a little more than that over a course of a year. But it happens on all vehicles. And thinking back to when they were simple, because there was a time on certain vehicles, it was when they were simple, like late 70's, early 80's Fords, like Mustang Two's and Fairmont's and there was a few different models, where the heater core would actually, they had little access hatch. You pull the glove box out, which only took a few minutes.  Take this access hatch off, take the two heater hoses off and you can slide the heater core right out, slide a new one in and away you go.

And that's a good thing because those are the kind that tended to leak a little more often too. So, that made for a really easy replacement. You can do it in an hour. This Range Rover is like two days worth of work, pretty much. So the times have changed. 

Mark: Yes. Haven't they. And I'm sure it might even be more complicated now in 2020 compared to 2008. 

Bernie: Yeah, there might be a little more complexity, but I think cars have kind of matured in the way they're built, with the things that are complex. It's just, sometimes the electronics are more elaborate, but there isn't really necessarily any more wires. It's just, everything's more complicated and in a little box. But yeah, it's a good point. Well, I guess we'll see in a 10 or more years time, what transpires. 

Mark: So, if you're looking for some service for your Range Rover in Vancouver, Pawlik Automotive, you can reach them at (604) 327-7112. They work on a lot of them. Give them a call, book ahead. They're always busy or check out the website pawlikautomotive.com. There's hundreds of videos, including many on all kinds of repairs on Range Rovers in Vancouver, BC, Canada. 

Of course, if you want some more information about this kind of stuff, check out the YouTube channel: Pawlik Auto Repair. Again, we've been doing this for eight years. Hundreds of videos on all makes and models and types of repairs. Thank you so much for watching and listening to the podcast. We really appreciate it. If you like what we're laying down, leave us a review. Thanks Bernie. 

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